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Title: Brutallus Must Die!
Post by: brett on August 04, 2008, 10:45:57 AM
Hey guys,

I'm feeling Rock Solid Hard and would like to have a crack at Brutallus, lets face it, WE GOT NETHERSPITE DOWN LIKE A BITCH!!! YAY! :p

In order to kill Brutallus we need a 2-3 Tank Rotation stratedy and as much DPS as we can get.

http://thottbot.com/c25158

If anyone fancys this challenge, Say "Aye!" :p


Title: Re: Brutallus Must Die!
Post by: Daal on August 04, 2008, 11:07:48 AM
*Netherspite

:)


Title: Re: Brutallus Must Die!
Post by: Zarx on August 04, 2008, 11:10:25 AM
Well if you're going for it, here's some tips from WoWWiki:

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Strategy

Currently Brutallus has 10,500,000 Health and a 6 minute enrage timer meaning 29,167 DPS is required to beat him before the berserk timer, kills have lasted no more than 6:28, most likely you'll be lucky to live past 6:10.

As it is plainly obvious, Brutallus is a massive (in more than one way) gear check. The strategy to this fight is very simple, make your raid into a "V" shape, with 1 tank at each top end of the V with respective soak groups behind him, and have the melee group at the vertex of the V so that they are always behind brutallus (no parrying). Each soak group takes 3 meteor slashes, the other tank taunts, and that group takes 3 meteor slashes, rinse repeat.

For Burn, that person must leave the group and run to a spot where they won't get slashed but be healed for the debuff, which everyone should be very spread out so that the burned person does not cause burn to happen to other players.

The maximum amount of healers you can bring to this raid is 8 (as 9 healers will almost certainly not get you enough DPS to kill him), and if your healers can do it, bring only 7 healers.

It should be noted that the fight, more specifically Meteor slash, was slightly changed in 2.4.1, that meteor slash's range was 30yrds and is now far longer, most likely to stop an exploit. Because of this, your positioning will have to be a bit more delicate to make sure a burned player isn't in any way in the cone of meteor slash.

The toughest part of this fight is the balance, as in the raid class balance. Warriors (and Rogues) can do extremely high DPS, especially with warglaive sets giving a very big bonus to this demon boss, but too many and you won't have enough soakers. Shadow priests help out a lot with Vampiric Embrace healing their group (the soaker groups), but their DPS is "capped" at 1400-1500 DPS under normal raid circumstances, even with the best gear possible. It will be up to you and your guild to find the best balance for killing Brutallus.

Using destruction potions/haste potions for the DPS is pretty much required, and your melee should have Elixir of Demonslaying over Flasks of Relentless Assault, full raid consumables, including food and buffs (you will need every single buff you can get to increase your healing and damage), even if it includes having a discipline priest waiting outside the instance buffing your casters with imp spirit and that extra paladin for the extra blessing.

Things in this fight you don't have to worry about:

  • Parry hasting: Much like the current (post-hotfix) Mother Shahraz, a parried attack will NOT hasten Brutallus's attacks (the reasoning here will be obvious with the massive amount of damage your tanks take)

  • Threat: Because taunting will constantly increase the tank's threat, the only time there is a chance for pulling aggro is before the first meteor slash transition.

  • Crushing blows: Just like the parried attacks, a spike in damage on the tank would just be too much to heal, as such, crushing blows are disabled for Brutallus.

Damage on the tanks is EXTREMELY high, but continuous and predictable.

A strategy with 3 tanks enables you to avoid his stomp ability, while one with 2 tanks enables you to beat the enrage timer more easily.


Title: Re: Brutallus Must Die!
Post by: brett on August 04, 2008, 11:33:37 AM
hehe thanks for spelling advice Daal, ive corrected it now :p

I recon we can take this demon, just need a good group and lots of dps with prob 3 healers and 2-3 Tanks and he'll get owned im sure :p and the gear drop from this guy looks super cool :D

We will own its Ass!  :-*





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Title: Re: Brutallus Must Die!
Post by: Daal on August 04, 2008, 01:02:16 PM
I'm still trying to work out whether you're serious or not..... I'm hoping not :)


Title: Re: Brutallus Must Die!
Post by: Delindir on August 04, 2008, 01:03:17 PM
I suggest getting a bombing run on his ass too! ;P

Nah tank and spank.


Title: Re: Brutallus Must Die!
Post by: Delindir on August 04, 2008, 01:06:08 PM
Whats his spawn time?


Title: Re: Brutallus Must Die!
Post by: Daal on August 04, 2008, 01:34:10 PM
Unless I'm mistaken you cannot attack the Brutallus thats visible during the bombing run... The real one lives inside the Sunwell instance :o


Title: Re: Brutallus Must Die!
Post by: Lupiho on August 04, 2008, 01:57:12 PM
This would be Brutallus who lives in Sunwell Plateau. . .   a 25 man raid harder than Hyjal and Black Temple. . . . 

Just so I'm clear. . .   this is a joke right?

Compared him and Netherspite would be a bit like killing 'Princess' at level 10 and then thinking you are ready to head into UBRS for a fight. 

Oooo.   That sounds like fun, I'm off to roll a new toon. .   meet you in Goldshire for a raid on Princess and then we can hoof it ovver to UBRS.   :D


Title: Re: Brutallus Must Die!
Post by: Delindir on August 04, 2008, 02:02:00 PM
Dunno, i assumed he meant the world boss on the bombing run, his bar seems to be grey unless thats just when your on a run.

/shrug

/care


Title: Re: Brutallus Must Die!
Post by: Daal on August 04, 2008, 02:11:52 PM
Aye, he's not a world boss, its just another 'version' of him specifically for the bombing run.

I don't think you can get to him, but could be wrong.


Title: Re: Brutallus Must Die!
Post by: Lupiho on August 04, 2008, 02:13:23 PM
oof.  just read the details on this guy (thanks for the link).

His Stomp deals ~20,000 damage and reduces the effective armor of the targets hit by it (only seems to hit the tanks) by 50% for 10 secs. 

Rim - are you crying yet?  :-\



Title: Re: Brutallus Must Die!
Post by: Daal on August 04, 2008, 02:24:39 PM
Aye, makes good reading doesnt it.

Like his 20k strike that then dots you with a curse of agony type debuff :o


Title: Re: Brutallus Must Die!
Post by: Auldur on August 04, 2008, 06:21:14 PM
Leme at em, leme at em, comme on, puttt em up, I'll fight ya with 1 hand behind me back.

I suspect that I may be a little under geared (along with every other tank on the svr).  Let me know how you all get on with that one  :-*


Title: Re: Brutallus Must Die!
Post by: Corvus on August 05, 2008, 09:21:48 AM
What about that kazzak gezzer!?!


Title: Re: Brutallus Must Die!
Post by: Daal on August 05, 2008, 09:49:34 AM
He's a 40 man I think, as is Doomwalker outside BT...  Might be 25


Title: Re: Brutallus Must Die!
Post by: brett on August 05, 2008, 11:24:12 AM
LOL! haha yeah might be a little tough, but when i was on one of my bombing runs once I saw a raid making there was up to him, through the other elites., but i have no idea if they got to him or was successful.

can a rogue stealth up to him and slice his ankles so he bleeds to death on the spot? :p


Title: Re: Brutallus Must Die!
Post by: Zarx on August 05, 2008, 04:40:09 PM
Doomwalker is insane! Total madness I tells you!


Title: Re: Brutallus Must Die!
Post by: Harps on August 05, 2008, 10:29:47 PM
Stella sais not to worry.


Title: Re: Brutallus Must Die!
Post by: brett on August 05, 2008, 10:30:47 PM
Stella?


Title: Re: Brutallus Must Die!
Post by: Daal on August 06, 2008, 09:13:32 AM
OMG! He doesnt know the guild mascot!  Stone him!


Title: Re: Brutallus Must Die!
Post by: brett on August 06, 2008, 11:30:26 AM
(....Starts Casting 'Stone Protection' Armor!) :p

lol Mascot?


Title: Re: Brutallus Must Die!
Post by: Zarx on August 06, 2008, 11:40:37 AM
*picks up a fairly large rock in his hand*
Who are we stoning again?